New Orleans Saints Head Coach Sean Payton
Media Availability Following Selection of S Kenny Vaccaro
Thursday, April 25, 2013
"We're still working through the end of this first round. We are excited that we were able to get a player that we had kind of put in our cloud that we spent a lot of time on. You really don't know how things will go in front of you. There were a few trades and you just want to be sure that you have someone that you felt like you've done your homework on and had a vision for. With Kenny, clearly he's a guy that we felt comfortable with and have a good vision for what his skill set is."
Q: Were the phones ringing with trade offers and possibilities?
A: "For us, no. It was pretty quiet. There wasn't any discussion that I can recall with any teams."
Q: Do you see him more as a strong safety or free safety?
A: "He has versatility. I think when you watch him play and you study game tape, he plays a lot of nickel because of the amount of spread offenses they saw in their league last year. There were a lot of snaps where he is down in the paint with two safeties behind him, covering down on the number two. One of the things that is attractive about this player is that he can do that and he's got that versatility to play not only safety, but to play down over the slot. You saw a lot of evidence of that. In fact, we had to go back and get more snaps of true safety film on him, rather than nickel film. I think he's versatile enough to play either one of the safety positions and certainly a guy that can handle some of the nickel."
Q: Typically when you draft a guy in the first round, you'd like for him to come in and play right away. How does this affect the two starters (Roman Harper and Malcolm Jenkins) that have been there for a while?
A: "We see how it goes when he comes in. We say the same thing every year: we're going to create competition with everyone in our camps. We felt like if he was available, we were getting an awfully good defensive football player to help our team. Now it will be up to him and us as coaches to get him up to speed along with everyone else. That kind of stuff will sort itself out. There will be a lot of competition, not just at safety."
Q: Did he play a similar role, like when you interviewed Tracy Porter and Nnamdi Asomugha? Were you looking for a physical coverage guy?
A: "I think in Tracy's case, he's played some nickel before, but this is a different player. It is a little unique that you see him play a lot of nickel and you see him play against some really good receivers. Clearly, if you're in just a two-safety defense and you want to drop him down in a slot formation without removing a linebacker, you can do that. If you want to use him against some of the substituted offensive sets, you can do that. That versatility is unique and something that I think is beneficial."
Q: How can Roman Harper benefit from the switch to Rob Ryan's defense?
A: "I'm not going to speculate; you guys can. I think that we're going to have competition at both safety spots. We're going to have competition at the nickel position. This is a good young football player that we're going to add to our defense, and we'll see what happens."
Q: How many people did you have on your board when it came to the 15th pick?
A: "There were two, I won't mention the other guy's name. You look, and there are a handful of names that you graded very high, but those guys went early. Within that cloud, it got to where there were three picks with two names and so you clearly have to have a backup plan. Both two teams ahead of us took different players and so we were left with two guys that we were going to be real excited about."
Q: When you won the Super Bowl, you really upgraded your secondary that year. Do you think four years later that getting better in that area was a prerequisite for making that step again?
A: "I think we entered the draft, even the offseason, really about helping our team get better in areas, where could we create competition, are the right players available' We were able to sign a couple of guys prior to this draft that we felt like we had a pretty good vision for, not just in the secondary but at defensive end, at outside linebacker. I think when you finished where we did and struggled like we did, you look at every possible avenue to help ourselves get better within the framework of the money we have to operate and, most importantly, find the player that you have a vision for that fits what you want them to do rather than just randomly go sign players. So this is a player that you can see a vision for in regards to his versatility, both at a safety position and at a nickel position. But I think entering the draft, I don't know that you can be that specific."
Q: When you move into tomorrow with a third round pick, are there any specific groups you guys are looking for?
A: "It is just such a long ways away that you pay close attention to the grade. I think the mistake often times is 'Well, they need this so they'll just draft this.' A lot of these guys getting drafted today may not have success or the success that everyone thinks they're going to have tomorrow morning once they get up. You hope that you're finding guys that you feel like are competitive, that are physical, and smart. So when tomorrow comes, there will be obviously a lot that goes on before that pick, and we'll see where it's at. We worked on these scenarios for the third round pick, and we have gone as far as the fourth and the fifth round scenarios with just taking players off the board. Based on history over the last ten years, six more corners go. If you do that to your own board, you could begin to have some possible scenarios that develop."
Q: Did you have any opportunities to move down and how tempting was that?
A: "No. We didn't want to move down. We would've wanted to move down, possibly, if one of those two players weren't available. But, no."
Q: Six offensive linemen were first round picks. Is that kind of out of the ordinary?
A: "There has been years when the quarterback position has been strong. Certainly that's always kind of played a significant role in the first part of the draft. This year, not so much. The tackles were all good players. The grades on a lot of those linemen were real strong. Historically, that position has been probably, I don't want to say a safer pick, but there has been a better 'hit ratio' on offensive tackle than on most other positions. The grades were there on those players. Each one of them in a different way has a lot of talent. (D.J.) Fluker from Alabama, the right tackle, is another player that played exceptionally well and was very durable. It is unusual but each year I think there is. With juniors entering the draft, and I think with the quarterback position, you didn't see the quarterback, receiver, running back enter into any of that. And so obviously something is happening with these other positions."
Q: Were there any offensive players that could've been in that group if the draft fell a certain way?
Q: Did you have any dialogue with Mack Brown about the player (Vaccaro)?
A: "That always will take place, first with the area scout then it will be the cross-check. He's been interviewed at the combine; we flew him down here for an interview. He was one of our campus visits. We saw every snap he's played and spoken to everyone that we valued the opinion of and then went back and really paid attention to his resume and that's what was on tape."
Q: How do you see him as a blitzer?
A: "I think he's got very good football intelligence. Part of being a pressure guy from the back end is the anticipation of the snap count, disguise. I think he's an instinctive player and you see that on tape. I think he's got a high football IQ, and I think that's important. I don't know that he had a lot of pressure opportunities, but I know that he's had a lot of snaps down over the slot and a lot of snaps back where they were in their base package as opposed to their nickel package."
Q: Does he have that "Wow!" factor?
A: "I think he's got that toughness and that suddenness that you would like at that position. I think he brings a physical dimension to his game, which I think he plays with, and I think you can see it when you study the tape. He's been well-coached; they do a great job there defensively. There were a lot of things to like about him."
Q: If there were two players left at number 15, it doesn't sound like there were many surprises?
A: "There weren't. That was the concern as you go through the various mocks you try to anticipate. That was the concern. I think we felt like there might be a quarterback taken ahead of us, which would push (someone else back). We felt like there might be a defensive tackle picked ahead of us. When that doesn't happen, then your dots slide in the direction away from you as opposed to towards you. It causes a little bit of grief for ten or fifteen minutes."
Q: How do you weigh his lack of interceptions this past season?
A: "Well so much of it was down low. He's got great ball skills. But when you're taking a player that's playing zone defense on the back end with eyes to the quarterback, I think you have high production in that area. I think when you bring a player, on tape you see him playing the nickel, a lot of his snaps are eyes in back away from the quarterback because of what he's being asked to do. He's carrying the West Virginia receiver (Tavon Austin) across the slot effectively. That's not uncommon when you're playing that nickel."
Q: Do you think Rob Ryan feels comfortable with what you've done, not only tonight, but with Keenan Lewis and Victor Butler as well, to be successful?
A: "It's an ongoing process. Clearly we are on the same page and we go through these scenarios. We're not in two different rooms up there, we are in one room."
Q: Does Rob Ryan's defense provide more man-to-man coverage?
A:"I think its fair to say that we have to be somewhat flexible as we get into the minicamps and the training camps to see, 'Hey, what are we doing well?' I think we've had a pretty good background in history of playing man-to-man prior to last season. I think that's part of the art of coaching. In other words, it's the New Orleans Saints defense no different than the New Orleans Saints offense. We were somewhat flexible and have been with regards to who we and how we evolve both offensively and I think that's one of the strengths of Rob is to come in and pay close attention to what it is that we do well. I think the mistakes are made often times of saying 'This is what I'm familiar with doing so we're going to…' I think we have to pay attention to it. With this selection, all of the sudden some things potentially change for us. No different from 2006 when there was a certain mindset to what we're going to do offensively and then all of the sudden, Reggie (Bush) is available and we got three or four more personnel packages in the face of what we may want to do or changes to some degree and I think that's something that is still ongoing as we get into these later rounds. I think until we get to the padded practices in July, (it's a process to) try to plug our current players into this defense. Where are the strengths? Do we feel like they fit? I think that's the challenge."
Q: How does his versatility help against the spread option/read option offense that many NFC teams are now running?
A: "I think the versatility from his experience seeing some of those offenses is helpful. I think a player than can run and tackle is helpful. I think speed, defensively, is helpful when you're talking about defending those packages that really present a challenge to you and really stress you defensively with an additional player involved in the run scheme."
Q: Was the West Virginia film with Tavon Austin one that particularly stood out to you?
A: "Yes. It's hard to say that there was a lot of great defense played in that game because the score was (a lot). You get to see him do some things in that game that were real impressive and you just continue to watch. You can pick out any game and you could see the same player. That's a good trait."